When Love Interrupts

Matt Langston

In this episode, we sit down with Matt Langston of Eleventyseven and starterpacts for a thoughtful and often hilarious conversation about faith, deconstruction, creativity, and embracing who you truly are. We share personal stories, explore the idea of "grace as anarchy," and discuss the lasting impact of hell houses, end-times fear, and growing up in evangelical culture. Along the way, we talk about authenticity, self-acceptance, and why being radically yourself might be one of the most powerful things you can do. It's an honest, vulnerable, and inspiring conversation about finding freedom beyond fear.
 
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Owner of Rock Candy Recordings
 
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Christploitation (BONUS EPISODE)

The scariest movies were shown at church. 
CONTENT WARNING!!!!!! This is a BONUS When Love Interrupts episode that also appears on Charity's horror channel HexReel. Discussions about Sexual Abuse, Murder, Suicide, end-times theology, and Hell anxiety are throughout this episode. Please sit this one out if you feel like it could be too heavy for you. 
SOURCES & MEDIA REFERENCES
Films & Media Referenced
Hell House 2001 (audio and visual clips used)
The Burning Hell (audio and visual clips used)
A Thief in the Night
Left Behind 2000
Left Behind 2014
The Passion of the Christ
The Human Centipede 2 (Full Sequence)
Drag Me to Hell
Faces of Death
Research & References
Articles and reporting on Christian horror films and Christploitation cinema
Research on evangelical fear-based media and end-times filmmaking
Historical coverage of church-sponsored Hell Houses and scare evangelism
Commentary and criticism regarding religious exploitation in film
Public interviews, reviews, and retrospective analyses of evangelical media movements
Fair Use Notice
This video contains copyrighted footage, images, and limited audio excerpts used for purposes of criticism, commentary, review, education, scholarship, and transformative analysis under Section 107 of the U.S. Copyright Act. Audio excerpts were used from Hell House (2001) and The Burning Hell (1974). All other film clips were used visually without original audio and were incorporated solely to support critical discussion and analysis.

Beth Revis

In this episode of When Love Interrupts, we sit down with bestselling author Beth Revis for a wide-ranging conversation that goes far beyond the page. We discuss the themes of fascism and authoritarianism woven throughout her books and how those ideas feel increasingly relevant in today’s political climate. Beth also joins us in exploring the historical origins of witchcraft accusations, the role Christianity played in shaping those narratives, and how religious institutions have influenced cultural fears throughout history. The conversation closes with an honest discussion of faith, deconstruction, and the reexamination of long-held beliefs in the pursuit of truth and compassion.
 
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Jason Dunn

Jason Dunn (former frontman of Hawk Nelson) joins us to share stories from his early music career, life on the road, and the journey he’s been on since stepping away from the band. From nostalgic memories and behind-the-scenes moments to honest conversations about faith, identity, and growth, this episode is both reflective and deeply personal.
Now continuing his work as a solo artist, Jason is stepping into a new creative chapter, with new music and projects that reflect where life has taken him today.
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Addie Zierman & Lizzie Goldsmith

In this episode of When Love Interrupts, Charity and Jay sit down with author Addie Zierman and audio producer Lizzie Goldsmith to explore the lasting impact of evangelical culture and the stories we tell about faith, fear, and belonging. Addie shares the story behind her memoir, When We Were on Fire, a reflection on growing up immersed in 90s evangelical youth culture and the complicated journey of faith that followed. The conversation also dives into the creation of the immersive audio drama adaptation that Lizzie produced, which brings the memoir to life through storytelling and sound. Together, they unpack the emotional landscape of evangelical upbringing, including the influence of rapture culture, apocalyptic imagination, dreams of Hell, and the way those narratives shaped identity, community, and spirituality for an entire generation.
 
Audio Drama Adaptation – created by Lizzie Goldsmith
Listen to the When We Were on Fire audio drama:
https://www.whenwewereonfirepodcast.com/
 
When We Were on Fire Book by Addie Zierman
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/17262112-when-we-were-on-fire
 
Host: Charity Campbell (@charitytcampbell)
Co-Host: Jay Bakker (@jaybakker)
Guest: Addie Zierman (@addiezierman)
Guest: Lizzie Goldsmith (@lizziegoldsmith)

Addie & Lizzie

In this episode of When Love Interrupts, Charity and Jay sit down with author Addie Zierman and audio producer Lizzie Goldsmith to explore the lasting impact of evangelical culture and the stories we tell about faith, fear, and belonging.Addie shares the story behind her memoir, When We Were on Fire, a reflection on growing up immersed in 90s evangelical youth culture and the complicated journey of faith that followed. The conversation also dives into the creation of the immersive audio drama adaptation produced by Lizzie, which brings the memoir to life through storytelling and sound.Together, they unpack the emotional landscape of evangelical upbringing, including the influence of rapture culture, apocalyptic imagination, dreams of Hell, and the way those narratives shaped identity, community, and spirituality for an entire generation.Audio Drama Adaptation – created by Lizzie GoldsmithListen to the When We Were on Fire audio drama:https://www.whenwewereonfirepodcast.com/When We Were on Fire by Addie Ziermanhttps://www.amazon.com/dp/1601425460https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/17262112-when-we-were-on-fireHost: Charity Campbell (@charitytcampbell)Co-Host: Jay Bakker (@jaybakker)Guest: Addie Zierman (@addiezierman)Guest: Lizzie Goldsmith (@lizziegoldsmith)

Semler

🎙️ We’re honored to welcome Semler to When Love Interrupts!Semler (aka Grace Semler Baldridge) is a groundbreaking artist whose music explores the intersections of faith, queerness, and identity with raw honesty and poetic brilliance. Known for topping the iTunes Christian charts with their independently released EP, Preacher’s Kid, Semler has challenged the norms of contemporary Christian music and sparked powerful conversations about belonging, spirituality, and authenticity.
In this episode, we talk about their powerful new album, Revival In My Mind, the themes behind it, and what inspired its creation. It’s a conversation full of vulnerability, courage, and a whole lot of heart.
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Thank you to Sam Banfield for providing the Intro and Outro music. Check him out here:
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Thank you to Sam Banfield for providing the intro and outro music. Check him out!!
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Malynda Hale

🎙️ Malynda Hale joins us for a powerful conversation about social justice, music, advocacy, holding onto love and compassion in divisive times, and how she’s managed to retain her faith through it all. An award-winning singer, songwriter, actress, and activist, Malynda uses her platform to champion racial equality, LGBTQ+ rights, and meaningful dialogue. From hosting the #WeNeedToTalk podcast to starring in films like Bull Street, she continues to lead with both artistry and purpose. She now serves as Executive Director of The New Evangelicals, bringing her voice and vision to a movement for inclusive, justice-minded people.
💻 Check her out here:
Malyndahale.com
🎙️ Thanks to Sam Banfield for providing the intro and outro music. Check him out here: https://open.spotify.com/artist/2ScvIe1JiuoySMImjpEdie @sambanfield_music
@sambanfield_music
 
 

Jay Bakker

This week on When Love Interrupts, we’re joined by pastor, author, and speaker Jay Bakker for an open-hearted, wide-ranging conversation you won’t want to miss. We discuss what it truly means to bridge divides in today's polarized world, and Jay shares personal reflections on growing up as the son of Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker (The PTL Club and Heritage USA). From his unique faith journey to the powerful work he’s doing now through Revolution Church, we dive into how radical grace, authenticity, and community can lead to healing and connection. 
 
🔗 Follow Jay BakkerInstagram: @jaybakkerTwitter/X: @jaybakkerFacebook: Jay BakkerWebsite: www.revolutionchurch.com
 
Thank you to Sam Banfield for providing the intro and outro music. Check him out!!
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🎵 Sam Banfield – Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/2ScvIe1JiuoySMImjpEdie
 

Derek Webb

In this episode of When Love Interrupts, we sit down with musician, producer, and provocateur Derek Webb. He's known for his time with Caedmon’s Call and a decades-long solo career marked by fearless honesty and spiritual exploration.
We delve into Derek’s journey through faith, doubt, and artistic evolution. Discussing topics ranging from the cost of speaking the truth in religious contexts to the freedom that comes with embracing one's full, authentic self. He opens up about his commitment to being an enthusiastic ally for the Queer community, his most recent projects (including Survival Songs), and how music continues to be a vehicle for both grief and hope. 
This conversation is raw, insightful, and full of heart. Whether you’re a longtime fan or just discovering his work, you’ll walk away challenged and inspired.
 
👇 Connect with Derek Webb:
🌐 Website: https://derekwebb.com
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📸 Instagram: @derekwebb
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📘 Facebook: facebook.com/derekwebb
 
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